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By: Adam

Adam — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:19:55 +0000

PHP Must be a solid job prospect as a ‘bad’ php developer (then) i was able to earn Â£3k a month, that occurred 3months in a row after they recommended me to each other.

It had nothing to do PHP code, more high knowledge of basic requirements to launch new websites, expanding and implementing suggestions (what they did not think of!)…. What gets you the job not quality PHP! its quality user experience.

Saying that, I’m now undertaking revision for Zend PHP 5 Certification. Soon I can offer great websites, with quality code!! lol

PHP5 Certification Blog: *New
http://www.is-hacked.com/blog

Some comments complain about people undervaluing PHP, thats not their fault its down to your bad self promotion. Every time I bid for a project in person they think im some kind of genius! As you can tell by my grammar and spelling that’s not true.

By: PHP Encoder

PHP Encoder — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:39:05 +0000

I know there are a lot of very good php developers. And if you can’t find good one nearby its time to think about outsourcing.

By: pcdinh

pcdinh — Tue, 22 May 2007 18:56:56 +0000

The weak point to PHP developers that is widely exposed to the world for recent years is some sort of culture: get things done quickly and somewhat carelessly. As the result, many PHP applications is constructed in a messy way, hard to maintain and get feelings that the developers behind them lacks of software engineering education. I dont want to mention about kind of academic education because people can get educated from various sources if they really want.

We can not blame people from other shops (Java, C#) for thinking that way about us because there is little PR news or community activities shows that PHP developers have strong background in software engineering. Of course, software engineering is not all in software development but at least it shows some sort of professional thinking and organized way of doing things.

We need more framework-based applications to prove that there is a wide adoption of MVC architecture, design patterns, teamworking, seperation of concern or role… that fit into enterprise-like software development culture. We need more academic-like articles about refactoring, OOP, design patterns, software architecture, unit testing.. We also need more thought leaders whose voice can be listened carefully by other people coming from enterprise software shops. PHP world has some stars but some stars can make a sky. We need a lot of stars to make people think that stars in PHP world is common thing and they can recruit some good guys to make a strong team without thinking about additional training.

Traditionally, we developed softwares and kept silent about how we had done it. The questions was that how many people in PHP world did a primarily design before coding something or how many people spent some times to draw some marketing pictures like that: http://java.sun.com/javaee/5/docs/tutorial/doc/Overview9.html
Zend framework: No. SolarPHP Framework: No. CakePHP Framework: No

Getting thing done quickly is good but under some circumstances, we need do it in more polished and expensive way. Sound like marketing but what we expect if it can increase our market value?

By: Non_E

Non_E — Tue, 22 May 2007 16:54:15 +0000

From my point of view the lack of good php developers is (also) caused by universities and other IT university grade schools that ignore the very existence of php. What languages are students given an option to learn? It’s usally java, c/c++ and other but not php.

By: MonkeyT

MonkeyT — Tue, 22 May 2007 14:58:49 +0000

As pointed out in The Journal of Adrian’s excellent article about hiring Perl devs (http://use.perl.org/~Adrian/journal/33295), by definition, good developers are fully employed, thus it takes a very attractive job offer to get their attention. That’s what I’ve seen here in Texas: a growing collection of attractive offers. That wasn’t happening as little as three years ago. PHP is a pretty mature language having solidified tremendously over the past few years. PHP is a relatively immature professional job market, having evolved out of haphazard freelance undercutting turmoil. But employers are more interested in creating real jobs for PHP with good salaries and benefits, in order to draw the attention of the skilled PHP dev. That is evidence that PHP’s future is bright. Because it is so hard to find PHP devs with a professional background, many companies are very hush hush about the hiring process. The want to protect their “sources”. Work on changing that. Awareness that there are good jobs out here for PHP devs is the only leverage we have to persuade average PHP developers to become exceptional PHP developers, which solves everyone’s problems. I realize that filtering out the underqualified applicants is a painful and wasteful expense for company, but making the PHP job market less invisible is the only way this situation improves.

By: developercast.com » Marc Gear’s Blog: Is PHP a solid job prospect?

developercast.com » Marc Gear’s Blog: Is PHP a solid job prospect? — Tue, 22 May 2007 13:09:38 +0000

[...] On his blog today, Marc Gear asks if developing PHP makes for a solid job prospect for the future: Good developers who know and want to work in PHP are hard to come by. Consider that perhaps PHP is so popular because it does some jobs really well. […] To me, [Terry’s quote] says that PHP is a pretty good scripting language to be getting stuck into, that its something that you should be using if you want to develop web applications that are used by hundreds of thousands of users across the world. [...]