Comments on: Zend Neon Beta (Zend Studio for Eclipse) http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23 encouraging maintainable and sensible PHP, and occassionally stuff about me. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:52:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Zach http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6301 Zach Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:34:44 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6301 I use phpEclipse via EasyEclipse for PHP (http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/php.html) and have found it very feature full. Again, you will have the clunkier UI, but it does work rather nicely. The debugging features are great and the ability to hover over a function and Ctrl-Click to go to the resource that function is defined is invaluable. There are so many good things about the Eclipse base that are helpful, I tend to look past the not-so-perfect UI. I use phpEclipse via EasyEclipse for PHP (http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/php.html) and have found it very feature full. Again, you will have the clunkier UI, but it does work rather nicely. The debugging features are great and the ability to hover over a function and Ctrl-Click to go to the resource that function is defined is invaluable. There are so many good things about the Eclipse base that are helpful, I tend to look past the not-so-perfect UI.

]]> By: Marc Gear http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6300 Marc Gear Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:09:24 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6300 @Tristan I use a text editor (edit+ 2 or vim or sed) for any bulk text operations I need to make but I believe that PHPEdit has a code formatter build in. Waterproof software used to do a standalone code formatter that worked pretty well, but I dont think thats available anymore. Zend Neon (and possibly PDT) has a detailed code formatter as well (which is a big plus for me) @Tristan

I use a text editor (edit+ 2 or vim or sed) for any bulk text operations I need to make but I believe that PHPEdit has a code formatter build in. Waterproof software used to do a standalone code formatter that worked pretty well, but I dont think thats available anymore.

Zend Neon (and possibly PDT) has a detailed code formatter as well (which is a big plus for me)

]]> By: Tristan Bailey http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6298 Tristan Bailey Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:25:37 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6298 Try PSPad also I find I would like an editor between the auto complete and debug of Zend and the editor of PSpad and EditPlus2. As I think they could have a few more text tools in Zend, as i tend to have to clean up data or clean and reformat code or html and need to pull it around a bit. Try PSPad also I find I would like an editor between the auto complete and debug of Zend and the editor of PSpad and EditPlus2.

As I think they could have a few more text tools in Zend, as i tend to have to clean up data or clean and reformat code or html and need to pull it around a bit.

]]> By: Marc Gear http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6291 Marc Gear Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:25:08 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6291 @clynx, I've got the PHPEdit trial downloaded, I just haven't got around to trialing it yet. I'm trying to give each IDE at least a couple of weeks for me to get my head around its individual nuances. Should have mentioned it in my original post tho. @clynx,

I’ve got the PHPEdit trial downloaded, I just haven’t got around to trialing it yet. I’m trying to give each IDE at least a couple of weeks for me to get my head around its individual nuances. Should have mentioned it in my original post tho.

]]> By: Marc Gear http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6290 Marc Gear Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:23:21 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6290 @Josh, The copy I use at work is licensed to them, not to me, so I can't use it at home. The reason i've been trialing different ones is that I want my own copy, but I want to make sure its the right decision before I commit any of my own money :) @Josh,

The copy I use at work is licensed to them, not to me, so I can’t use it at home. The reason i’ve been trialing different ones is that I want my own copy, but I want to make sure its the right decision before I commit any of my own money :)

]]> By: Alex@Net http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6289 Alex@Net Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:22:43 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6289 Hi, I use PDT and EditPlus2. BTW, It would be great to have a review on Neon and compare it with PDT. Sincerely, Alex Hi,

I use PDT and EditPlus2.

BTW, It would be great to have a review on Neon and compare it with PDT.

Sincerely,
Alex

]]> By: clynx http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6286 clynx Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:36:50 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6286 There is also PHPEdit, which seems to be (in my eyes) the best one for Windows. How does it come that nobody mentions its when there's an IDE talk going on? ;) You can find it at http://waterproof.fr/products/PHPEdit/. There is also PHPEdit, which seems to be (in my eyes) the best one for Windows.
How does it come that nobody mentions its when there’s an IDE talk going on? ;)

You can find it at http://waterproof.fr/products/PHPEdit/.

]]> By: Jason Hopkins http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6270 Jason Hopkins Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:32:58 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6270 I've been testing Zend Neon for quite some time, and, while I have to admit it's good in a lot of ways, they really messed a lot of things up. It took me two hours to figure out how to simply change the colors/fonts (I'm a big advocate a using programming centric fonts). The whole interface itself is nothing more than a mashup. It looks like a lot of different people threw a lot of different things together and hoped it'd work out, and a lot of things don't work/aren't supported yet (I think this is mainly the Eclipse devs fault, not Zend's). All in all I'd give Zend Neon 4/10 due to it's difficult, clunky UI. My advice, keep to studio, I did, I am looking forward to the final version however, I'm hoping they clean up their act, as I've said, there are a lot of good things in Neon, but the bad, sadly, outwieghs them. I’ve been testing Zend Neon for quite some time, and, while I have to admit it’s good in a lot of ways, they really messed a lot of things up. It took me two hours to figure out how to simply change the colors/fonts (I’m a big advocate a using programming centric fonts). The whole interface itself is nothing more than a mashup. It looks like a lot of different people threw a lot of different things together and hoped it’d work out, and a lot of things don’t work/aren’t supported yet (I think this is mainly the Eclipse devs fault, not Zend’s). All in all I’d give Zend Neon 4/10 due to it’s difficult, clunky UI. My advice, keep to studio, I did, I am looking forward to the final version however, I’m hoping they clean up their act, as I’ve said, there are a lot of good things in Neon, but the bad, sadly, outwieghs them.

]]> By: Josh Johnston http://onekay.com/blog/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-6264 Josh Johnston Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:32:28 +0000 http://www.onekay.com/blog/archives/23#comment-6264 I am not 100% on this, but I was under the impression that a normal Zend Studio license was valid for a physical person, not one workstation. Meaning you can install it at home and use the same license at work and at home. When you check the about does it show it licensed to you or to a company? I am not 100% on this, but I was under the impression that a normal Zend Studio license was valid for a physical person, not one workstation. Meaning you can install it at home and use the same license at work and at home. When you check the about does it show it licensed to you or to a company?

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